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Mazze Nilsson of Dissidentklubben in a conversation with Jeffrey Sachs where he outlines his four-point peace plan for Ukraine. It is based on the principle of "indivisible security" from the Helsinki Final Act, arguing that Europe is secure only when all parts, including Russia, are secure. He claims the West broke a 1990 promise not to expand NATO eastward and ignored Russia's longstanding security concerns, leading to war. His plan calls for: (1) Ukraine returning to neutrality; (2) ending NATO enlargement; (3) Ukraine becoming an EU candidate as a neutral country; and (4) a ceasefire along an armistice line, without requiring a formal territorial settlement. Sachs urges Nordic countries—especially Sweden and Denmark—to support peace talks, praising Norway and Finland's initiative to call Putin, and says Germany bears major responsibility and would benefit most from peace. He also argues that Europe must regain its independence. Please all Swedish readers and viewers. Share this important talk with your friends to try to reach the mainstream audience. It could be a matter of life and death. If not for you - for your children and grand children. This insanity has to stop. And peace prevail. Link to the written peace plan in Common Dreams: “Jeffrey Sachs - A Proposed Settlement Plan” The conversation was recorded the 29:th of October, 2026. Get full access to Dissidentpodden at dissidentpodden.substack.com/subscribe